I"m a Cherokee citizen thru Caleb Starr Thompson on the Dawes Roll.My question is the info on this website about the relatives past Nancy Ward clear back to the "Moytoy of Tellico". It seems on this website, White Owl Raven (Nanyehi's father) may have a cloudy recorded history. I am of Moytoy decent on my mother's father's side. The research on this blog and on Ancestry.com is for me, my children, my grandchildren, future generations and anyone else who is interested. Does this mean that if I had a great-uncle that signed Dawes, I can apply to be a part of the Western Cherokee nation? Remember the sons of Dragging Canoe's younger brother Shoeboots? Hit me up if you have any info on this line. Daliah Wachs, MD, FAAFP. Benge was a noted Cherokee Chief and raider of the upper Holston settlements. I don't know how many times I heard her say she wished she'd never told me. He honored the agreement with McGillivray, of the Upper Muscogee, to build blockhouses (from which warriors of both tribes could operate) at Running Water, Muscle Shoals, and at the junction of the Tennessee and Clinch rivers in Alabama. Chief Vann had nothing to do with Shoeboots' and his slave Doll's children's separation. I am related to Amatoya through his son, Old Hop, Sookie Hopper, Catherine McDaniel, Mary Elvira Hensley, Mary Elvira Ward, to Lille Belle Holland, who is my 3rd great grandmother! Soldier Sixkiller. Mother Vann, Wah-li/Polly, is my documented 4x-grandmother. Born in Cherokee Nation East, Willstown, Jackson, AL on 1752 to Grey Eagle Willeeneewa and Kayhun Keyhum Techea. She was the sister of John Watts, Cherokee Chief, also known as "Young Tassel". It couldn't have been the Vanns could it? Maybe he did and she had already fallen in love with George Booker. "Working with Elizabeth Watts was an absolute pleasure. So none of this can be proven or dis-proven and anyone who wants to verify their link to the Cherokee needs to do so for present day and post Sequoyah but their Colonial history is lost to the sands of time. Do you.have an actual family tree showing descendants? That is an almost impossible task. Elizabeth Watts is an American Journalist currently working for KOAA News5 in Southern Colorado, as an anchor and reporter. Surnames Bertholf, Riley, Priber. I always knew I had Indian but did not know anything about my Heritage until now. In May 2017, Newton-John announced that she had breast cancer that had metastasized to the sacrum. He was known as a trader in interpreter. I'm also related to them as well. Many researchers believe Parker Adkins only had 2 children with Bluesky, Littleberry and Charity. Initially, many emigrants worked with the various Nations, and intermarried without racist views. Please email me is any of u share a connection hhokomo@aol.com. The removal was triggered by a small faction of Cherokee who made their own treaty with the U.S. government at New Echota, Georgia on December 29, 1835. I know, I told my son and he is proud as I am. Her mother's name was Elizabeth Ah Ne Wa Kee Lucas birth-1784 Death-1822 Father's . Watts, was then living again in the Overhill area. She left Elijah, taking "little Nancy" with her, then became the 3rd wife of Tecumseh. http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/21299310/person/19987329237, John Watts "Young Tassel", Cherokee Chief, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Watts_(Cherokee_chief), http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathaniel_Gist, https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Person:Elizabeth_Watts_%2846%29, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License. There they rebuilt a replica of his Georgia Mansion for him.It's often said that Cherokee owned slaves but the truth is it was really only the Vann, Ross, Watts, Ridge, and a couple other families who owned all of the slaves. William F. Dorton [[Dorton-166]]: No source is listed for this claim. Family connections all wrong, dates way off, and no proofs, which is worse than no website.http://www.dagulaku.com/Wappa' e-shiquechi' nika. Watts signed the 1791 Treaty of Holston, along with fellow war leaders: Doublehead, Bloody Fellow, Black Fox (a future chief of the Cherokee Nation), The Badger (Dragging Canoe's brother), and Rising Fawn. Pam chatty_devine@yahoo.com, I believe I am 11th generation descendent of Chief Moytoy. The DNA test do not show tribe. The numbers of slaves who accompanied them are enumerated. TM,Have you learned anything new re: Black Fox, Attakullakulla, Moytoy, and Thomas Pasmere Carpenter? Due was a white trader who had a daughter named Jennie with a Cherokee woman named Elizabeth Emory. I wish there was a way to edit.after further consideration, I am actually a descendant of Old Hop, which appears in different accounts to have been adopted by Moytoy. Trader was born in 1720, in Bowling Green, Caroline, Virginia, USA. I would think that would be a HUGE fraud on the Ancestry.Com people, Thank you so much. Tail Sixkiller. Howa, i am curious as to your line of ancestry that helped you become recornized. cariewestbrook@live.com, Hi Carie, My name I Sheila King. I would appreciate any information about this couple. The band included the young man The Ridge (known as Nunnehidihi, or Ganundalegi) going into his first battle. Although Watts withdrew from the Overhill Towns along with Dragging Canoe's band, at first he was minimally involved in the raiding they made against American settlers during and after the Revolutionary War. My grandmother on my fathers side told me her grandmother was full Cherokee. With one simple test, you can discover your genetic origins and find family you never knew you had. I'm looking for lists of those who made the March to Oklahoma. What a beautiful, interesting and insightful article! She is named in no records and is known only by extrapolation from references to her father, her brother, and her son. I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. Oh Gee Mike .. Malachi was born in 1813 in Georgia and died in 1864 in Cane Hill, Arkansas. What do you make of all this? We need to connectI would love to talk with you. "Wurteh" Elizabeth Watts(Gist) BENJE, daughter of Chief Great Eagle and woman Ani Wadi, is my 6th great-grandma on my mom's side. John's father was Yell Clement Ward. Hey bro, if you do your own research and study based truthful and factual info than you would see that isnt even real. Who was responsible for that? The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, The Eastern Band of Cherokees in North Carolina and the United Keetowah Band in Oklahoma. My email is billallison60@gmail.com and I am very interested in any information concerning this. I have traced my grandmother Claudia peddycoart to Elizabeth Ravin hop moytoy. I'm very interested #1 if I was adopted if on roll can I still apply? Ensign Thomas Ayres (to Oglethorpe) was of mixed blood but educated in England where his wealthy father, who was on the Georgia Board, found him a position with Oglethorpe. The old cherokee tribe also had numerous links to kentucky.other tribes and early euro traders had to pay the cherokee kings lease and trade fees for being in cherokee territory much like the king powhatan era. God Bless You . Vann . Sorry bro, never happened! So, NO, I don't claim to be from an Indian Princess but, a captured woman who married a white man. Other than Cheerokee chief? He is my 10th cousin 7x removed. I also am from Moytoy and the Copelands. yes, I know this name. This was the third phase of the "Cherokee removal" to lands in the West. DNA and a paper trail have proved that the mother of the two children who supposedly belonged to Blue Sky (Littleberry & Charity) belonged to a white woman who was mostly Irish and English. The same Joseph Vann who was sent in for the Transylvania Land Company by the Virginia banking firm of Isaiah Isaacs and Jacob Cohen to help illegally purchase Kentucky. Elizabeth was Cherokee. Does anyone else connect to this tree, or have info on this line that they'd be willing to share? I already consider myself Cherokee, but would love to officially sign up. What is this website? Love finding your site! Read some real history, as it was prevalent among the 5ct. It is not the amount of Cherokee you have, it is strictly about the Dawes Roll. I have been doing research for ten years in hopes to find a roll number to which I can apply for a CDIB card from at Cherokee Nation in Tahlequah, OK. Very interesting info! I do know my clan is the Wolf clan. Elizabeth worked as a news anchor and reporter for KOAA News5 from August 2016 to July 23, 2021. while there, she received quite a fulfilling amount. That would be part English. Easy, he was selling off Cherokee lands. Really it's because the roles have closed except to newborns whose parents must take a DNA test to prove Eastern Cherokee blood. His name was Jace Maxfield. Redbird Sixkiller. I would be so delighted for help. The first documented trip made by Thomas Pasmere Carpenter occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. Powered by . Can the blogger please remove my comment? I'm assuming you're a Christian. Thanks for that info on the Dawes but with out more specific names I can't connect it to my tree. Elizabeth Watts Net Worth. Robert Due, the Indian Trader -or- the son of Robert Due and some other Cherokee woman. This does get confusing. I've found so much information on his descendants, just not his ancestors! The family that began with Joseph Vann, a Sephardic Jewish translator working with Richard Henderson, Colonel John Sevier, and Daniel Boone at the Treaty of Sycamore Shoals in 1775 when Cheucunsene declared war on them as rogues. grandmother who was Caroline Carroll. A paper trail of historical events at the time also disproves this relationship. His mother was Scent Morning Flower and his Father was Running Stream. Were the Carpenters traders from England or not? 1,645 followers. Obediah Benge lived in Georgia while John Benge was also alive and living there. I'm a descendant through Moytoy, Doublehead, Colbert, Tharp, etc. He was known as Standing Turkey Cornstalk the son of Big Turkey Cornstalk the grandson of Hokolesqua Opechan Cornstalk. Most of my ancestors are from Tennessee. How can all these cousin be wrong. He notes the marriage of Wurteh to Bloody Fellow is speculative but plausible. I believe Nenetoonyah should be detached from Wurteh. ELIZABETH WATTS was born in 1751, at birth place, Alabama, to Chief John Trader Crunk Watts Watts (born Watts Cherokee) and WURTAGUA GI-YO-STI-KO-YO-HE Watts Cherokee (born Bird Clan). I'm so late to the game here, but my maiden last name is Essary (I'm the grand daughter of Ernest Essary) and I too am descended from Amatoya, kanagatoga and Sugi. Watts moved with the band downriver to Running Water Town, still in Tennessee but further from the frontier. . Elizabeth states that her father was born in Monroe County, Tennessee and that her mother . What a cowardly pathetic and ignorant joke you are, Anonymous. She gets her riches from her career as a journalist. ago, we are orignially from the Pulaski/Wayne Co. Kentucky area. I am hoping to find any records of John Ward (my great grandfather) and his wife Emma. Watts's mother, Oousta, was a sister of Cherokee chiefs Attakullkulla Carpenter . Kharma, maybe. Malachi is the son of Robert Parris and Penny Langley. She is from United Kingdom. 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